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Re: Why as an educator you should care about Open Source Software

Doug Belshaw — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:47:14 -0000

Love the analogy of books in a library - thanks! :-)

Re: Why as an educator you should care about Open Source Software

Doug Belshaw — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:47:14 -0000

Love the analogy of books in a library - thanks! :-)

Re: Why as an educator you should care about Open Source Software

Alan McNeil Jackson — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:27:24 -0000

This is an important and interesting article and one of the first times I've seen what I think is the REAL argument being put forward.

One can debate the total cost of ownership estimations for FLOSS vs proprietary software but I think that misses the point.

The point is an ideological one. Open Source Software treats software as knowledge - similar to scientific knowledge or other forms of knowledge, that enhance the human condition by being shared. One of the primary goals of education.

Proprietary Software sees software as product. Something that is sold for the profit of the producer. This is fundamentally at odds with the philosophy of education.

Debates about whether or not to use Microsoft in a school, I think, are analogous to debating whether the school library should only stock books from a single publisher.

Re: Why as an educator you should care about Open Source Software

Alan McNeil Jackson — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 12:27:24 -0000

Re: Why as an educator you should care about Open Source Software

Doug Belshaw — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:16:14 -0000

Cool! Glad it worked. If only *everything* was Open Source... ;-)

Re: Why as an educator you should care about Open Source Software

Tracy Rosen — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:32:05 -0000

Doug - hi.
It's been reblogged here --> http://tracyrosen.com/?p=105

It wouldn't work directly, but the program offered me some code to copy and put into a post, which I did :)

Nifty little link. I like it.

open source?

(kidding)

Re: Why as an educator you should care about Open Source Software

Doug Belshaw — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 09:47:07 -0000

Interesting, Marc! Devious, aren't they? I'd recommend 'taking the plunge'
as you put it. Perhaps not with the whole operating system (i.e. Linux) at

first, but certainly with some OSS applications. :-)

Re: Why as an educator you should care about Open Source Software

Guest — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 09:38:50 -0000

I'm not a programmer and understand almost nothing about code. But I just came across this interesting variation on the philosophy of OpenSource: <a href=" http://www.opednews.com/articles/Free-Energy-an... Energy and the Open Source Energy Movement: "There are persons working in the U.S. Patent office, who have come forward with information regarding how free energy devices are often “stolen” or suppressed by the government…. This has been reported on by long-time Patent Office employee Thomas Valone, PhD, to have happened to over 4,000 patent filings. Once a patent request is filed in the United States, it is automatically and immediately studied carefully by scientists and engineers working within the Pentagon. .. Enter the Open Source Energy Movement. Herein lies the answer to the above roadblocks to bringing new energy devices into the mainstream; at least until the patent laws change. The answer is simple: Don’t attempt to patent your device: “Open Source” it with full disclosure and documentation."
PS Thanks to you and commentes for pushing Linux and variants. One day, I'll take the plunge.

Re: Why as an educator you should care about Open Source Software

Doug Belshaw — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 07:55:22 -0000

Excellent - thanks for sharing the software you use, Nick! :-)

Re: Why as an educator you should care about Open Source Software

Doug Belshaw — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 07:16:14 -0000

Cool! Glad it worked. If only *everything* was Open Source... ;-)

Re: Why as an educator you should care about Open Source Software

Tracy Rosen — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 06:32:05 -0000

Re: Why as an educator you should care about Open Source Software

Doug Belshaw — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 04:47:07 -0000

Interesting, Marc! Devious, aren't they? I'd recommend 'taking the plunge'
as you put it. Perhaps not with the whole operating system (i.e. Linux) at
first, but certainly with some OSS applications. :-)

Re: Why as an educator you should care about Open Source Software

Guest — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 04:38:50 -0000

I'm not a programmer and understand almost nothing about code. But I just came across this interesting variation on the philosophy of OpenSource: http://www.opednews.com/articles/Free-Energy-an..... Energy and the Open Source Energy Movement: "There are persons working in the U.S. Patent office, who have come forward with information regarding how free energy devices are often “stolen” or suppressed by the government…. This has been reported on by long-time Patent Office employee Thomas Valone, PhD, to have happened to over 4,000 patent filings. Once a patent request is filed in the United States, it is automatically and immediately studied carefully by scientists and engineers working within the Pentagon. .. Enter the Open Source Energy Movement. Herein lies the answer to the above roadblocks to bringing new energy devices into the mainstream; at least until the patent laws change. The answer is simple: Don’t attempt to patent your device: “Open Source” it with full disclosure and documentation."
PS Thanks to you and commentes for pushing Linux and variants. One day, I'll take the plunge.

Re: Why as an educator you should care about Open Source Software

Carl Anderson — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 03:16:18 -0000

Our school district tech department has decided that we will no longer spend $ on software licenses anymore. We have installed OpenOffice, GIMP, Firefox, and Paint.net on all student use computers. When our Windows licenses expire we will likely install Linux on these machines. I believe that between OSS and cloud computing there really is no need to waste $ on software. All that savings can be applied to directly benefit students.

Re: Why as an educator you should care about Open Source Software

Doug Belshaw — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 02:55:22 -0000

Excellent - thanks for sharing the software you use, Nick! :-)

Re: Why as an educator you should care about Open Source Software

Carl Anderson — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:16:18 -0000

Re: Why as an educator you should care about Open Source Software

Doug Belshaw — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:30:16 -0000

Thanks for the link! Looking forward to getting involved. I've run Ubuntu on
a number of systems, but I'm still happy to say that as of today I'm

exclusively running OSX at home (which is, course, based on Unix...)

Re: Why as an educator you should care about Open Source Software

Doug Belshaw — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:29:20 -0000

Good good. Let me know when you've 'reblogged' - I'm interested to see what
it does! :-)

Re: Why as an educator you should care about Open Source Software

jonesieboy — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:08:07 -0000

I do indeed use it Doug. I have kubuntu running on my desktop at home. I also write open source software - FreeMIS is my woefully incomplete attempt to write a replacement for proprietary school MIS systems, and Scotedublogs aggregates the edublogosphere north of the border :-)

I would also recommend http://www.schooforge.org.uk if you want to get involed in the community.

Re: Why as an educator you should care about Open Source Software

Tracy Rosen — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:00:47 -0000

I do! And I am a member of FSF, which I discovered through @petrock on twitter.

I find that open source is in tune with values that I and most educators I know share - collaboration, trust, creativity. It just makes sense.

Good post. I just noticed that little reblog link - I plan on using it!

Re: Why as an educator you should care about Open Source Software

Doug Belshaw — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:30:16 -0000

Thanks for the link! Looking forward to getting involved. I've run Ubuntu on
a number of systems, but I'm still happy to say that as of today I'm
exclusively running OSX at home (which is, course, based on Unix...)

Re: Why as an educator you should care about Open Source Software

Doug Belshaw — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:29:20 -0000

Good good. Let me know when you've 'reblogged' - I'm interested to see what
it does! :-)

Re: Why as an educator you should care about Open Source Software

jonesieboy — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:08:07 -0000

Re: Why as an educator you should care about Open Source Software

Tracy Rosen — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 09:00:47 -0000

I do! And I am a member of FSF, which I discovered through @petrock on twitter.

I find that open source is in tune with values that I and most educators I know share - collaboration, trust, creativity. It just makes sense.
Good post. I just noticed that little reblog link - I plan on using it!